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Amonda Rose Igoe Podcast Transcription

[00:00:00] Kris Ward: Hey everyone. Welcome to another episode of Win The Hour Win The Day, and I am your host, Kris Ward. And today in the house, we have Amonda Rose. I go, and she is a Speaking Success Strategist. Welcome to the show, Amonda Rose.

[00:00:15] Amonda Rose Igoe: Ah, thank you, Kris. I’m super excited to be here.

[00:00:18] Kris Ward: Okay. We got lots to dive into. I, you stopped the scroll with me. We, as I told you, we got a waiting list to be on the show and everything. And then I reached out because your videos were just so great.

[00:00:28] And that’s really what you do is you teach people to speak successfully. And I just found, your videos really engaging. And I watched the whole thing. So there was a number of things that I found that you did exceptionally well, but why don’t we just start diving into some of the things that you think people are missing when as business owners, entrepreneurs, coaches, consultants, founders, we have to not only do video, but speaking engagements and things like that.

[00:00:59] I guess the first thing I think of, and I know that I do this as well, is the curse of knowledge, doing a data dump. Oh, I have all this stuff that I want to tell you. And then there’s the thing I have to tell you before the thing I actually want to tell you. Cause you know, now I have to explain the thing before the thing and you’re right. It turns into a data dump. So where do we start and how do we stop that disease?

[00:01:22] Amonda Rose Igoe: Okay. That’s a great question. The reason that most of us do it is because we want to give.

[00:01:28] Kris Ward: Yes.

[00:01:29] Amonda Rose Igoe: We want to just give. And also we want to give because we feel that it highlights our expertise or convinces the audience that we’re amazing because we’re so knowledgeable.

[00:01:39] The challenge is that when you’re speaking to an audience and somebody is doing the data dump, the audience starts to check out. Have you ever had that happen, Kris? I have information. You go and you pick up your phone like, Oh, gosh, I’m so bored. Oh, my God. I can’t handle it. My brain is overwhelmed. And so the audience checks out when that happens.

[00:01:57] I remember being a speaker at an event and the gentleman was running the event decided he was going to share 20 networking tips in 10 minutes. Oh, that’s what told us.

[00:02:08] You can imagine what’s happening to the audience. They’re sinking in their seats, they’re getting overwhelmed, they’re going to the bathroom.

[00:02:14] He was bald and you could literally see the sweat droplets coming down the side of his head. It was so bad. So bad. And now that we know that there’s a challenge, we want to overcome that challenge and that first challenge. Acknowledge that you do it and if you’re listening to this, you know that you do the data dump.

[00:02:32] You’re clear on that and realize that the people that you’re trying to help, you’re not going to be able to help them because they’re going to be so overwhelmed.

[00:02:39] Kris Ward: Okay. Hold on. Let me jump in for a second. Are we clear on it though? Because sometimes we think that I have to. In order to explain one thing, I need to explain two more things or instead, I understand.

[00:02:53] I’m like, I, that was my disease for a long time. It’s oh, I want it. I want to over deliver. I want to make sure you get this. I, I’m so passionate about what I’m talking about because you’re, your business should support your life, not consuming. I’ve seen how people’s lives change, right?

[00:03:07] And so then you start trying to tell them a whole bunch of things at the same time, that this thing they need to know, they need to know this other thing because it goes together. And I’m not a hundred percent sure that we do know this. So I think what I learned over the years is this was very powerful for me was you are not looking really to give them education, but transformation.

[00:03:28] And so that if you can let them understand that there’s a new way, but we don’t need to teach them that exact way right now, because with that, to the example, you just gave nevermind that you tuned out cause he’s going to give you 25 things or whatever in a few minutes. You start thinking, Oh, I can’t do all those things.

[00:03:46] Like it’s not even that I get bored. I just go I’m, I can’t manage all that at once. So then I just won’t bother.

[00:03:51] Amonda Rose Igoe: The thing that they have to remember is that when they do that, the audience isn’t taking in the information. They’re going to be overwhelmed and not apply it.

[00:04:01] And they have to realize that when you can share something, maybe it’s the next time they listen to your program or the next thing they do with you, or the next workshop that you tend during the next webinar, the next podcast that you’re on, you can share those next steps. Steps. It doesn’t mean that you have to give them everything at once.

[00:04:19] And I tell my clients and I’m in podcast interviews to ask yourself this very important question when you’re creating your talk or your webinar or your keynote, do they need to know this right now? Do they need to know this? And when you ask yourself that question, you go no, they don’t need to know this right now.

[00:04:38] And you’re going to end up getting rid of the majority of the stuff that doesn’t need Resonate with them at this right moment, because most times we’re educating them as to why they need something then filling the gaps later with all the great rest of the information.

[00:04:53] Kris Ward: Okay, so as you’re talking, I’m thinking, let’s talk about virtual assistants.

[00:04:57] Often people come to me, they think they need a virtual assistant and they can, they definitely for sure. That’s just one thing we do, it’s an entry point, it’s not the thing. More often than not. What happens is that hasn’t worked out in the past because they’re not set up for it. They don’t have streamlined processes.

[00:05:14] They’re just reacting like a crazy person, like an erratic driver all over the road, that kind of deal. So then they’ll say, ah it was the person I found before it didn’t work out. Whatever. So the old me would tap into first of all, hiring is a whole thing on its own. And we have this 12 point hiring process, 90 percent retention rate, but also then there’s this whole, listen, the corporate world is very parentified and you’ve been set up and taught to delegate and supervise their work.

[00:05:39] And that becomes a whole new job. And so if I’m not careful, I start explaining all these reasons why. It hasn’t worked in the past, but I guess to your point, if that was, here’s the three reasons why it hasn’t worked in the past over a 30 minute presentation, I could tap on each one versus I might on a bad day, try to do all that in a 32nd video,

[00:06:02] Amonda Rose Igoe: right?

[00:06:03] And we all watch those situations where somebody just cram everything into it and our minds can’t process it.

[00:06:10] Kris Ward: Okay.

[00:06:10] Amonda Rose Igoe: And it’s really wasting the person who’s watching it, watching the video or listening to the presentation. It’s wasting their time and wasting the speaker’s time at the same time.

[00:06:20] Kris Ward: So do you believe that almost like if they have to take notes and you’re giving them too much information, is that a angle of philosophy? Okay.

[00:06:29] Amonda Rose Igoe: Nope. Nope. Here’s how, when somebody says to you, that was a great presentation. Let me just say it’s a business owner who’s using this opportunity to speak to great clients.

[00:06:40] And somebody comes up to them and says, thank you for all the great information. I love your program, but I’ll hire you when I get through this list that you gave us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is a red flag. Yeah. And I’m speaking from my own experience because I did that exact thing and that is exactly what happened to me.

[00:06:56] Somebody said that to me.

[00:06:57] Kris Ward: Yeah.

[00:06:58] Amonda Rose Igoe: I’m like, oh my gosh, my coach at the time had told me a zillion times not to over exaggerate. You want to deliver great information that gets value, but you don’t want to just overwhelm them. You want to do a deep dive on specific things, not a snorkel where at the top of the water, you want to deep dive into specific things that make the most sense.

[00:07:18] Kris Ward: Okay, hold on. That was helpful. That’s something I’m all about analogy. So I know somebody said to me once a while back. Kris, one of your videos on LinkedIn, that’s like more than I got out of a course I paid for. So you’re giving too much information because it’s like, Oh, I got all this stuff.

[00:07:35] Okay. And I think to your point is do a deep dive on one thing, go down and get one treasure, go down and get one shell off the bottom of the ocean and say, Hey, here it is. It’s pretty shiny. This is where I found it. A little bit about this. Versus snorkeling, talking about all the fish in the landscape and doing everything else.

[00:07:55] Okay. That’s a big aha moment for me.

[00:07:59] Amonda Rose Igoe: Good. I love it.

[00:08:01] Kris Ward: Okay. So that helps us avoid the data dump. Now, skipping right to the end, then we’ve got closing. This is another place when you’re closing, whether now do these things, obviously they’re different for video or speaking engagements, but do you argue that there’s a thread amongst all of them of how do we close off again, where we might’ve done really well and not done the data dump, but we can start dumping in the closing when we lose control of, Oh, it’s ending. Here’s what I have to stuff in.

[00:08:32] Amonda Rose Igoe: That’s the case in many situations, two things can happen. They’ll start just trying to cram in as much as they can to a limited time instead of really thinking through their closing and practicing and knowing exactly what they want to say.

[00:08:44] Speaking to the emotion. And just some of the details, but the other side of it, Kris, is people will say they’ll speak in front of an audience. They didn’t do anything around their closing and think about it and they end like this. Thank you. Everybody. You have been a great audience and come to see come and see me and they walk off stage.

[00:09:04] Now, is that a great closing? No.

[00:09:07] Kris Ward: But would anybody still really do that? I think of anything when I think of a bad really, when I think of a bad closing, I think of someone giving too much. Like I think of Oh, you can buy me here and there. And I’ve got this freebie and blah, blah. We have this special. I think of the other way.

[00:09:21] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah, both do happen, but I’m going to tell you, Kris, people still do it.

[00:09:26] They just, they run out of time and they get that time signal that says, Oh, you’ve got to stop because they didn’t really think the entire thing through. But let’s just go to your point with the doing the data dump.

[00:09:38] And so they can’t, the confused mind doesn’t make a decision. So really narrowing in on what is the one closing that you want? Is your closing to have more speak engagements? Do you want them to tell other people about your presentations? Maybe it was an opportunity to sell something, but you could gain more opportunities to speak if the audience really loved you.

[00:09:57] Another side of it is there some free giveaway that you want people to use? There’s a QR code step, or do you want people to actually come and talk with you or take a step to hire you? So you really have to know exactly what your closing is, but also with speaking opportunities, you have to know, you have to know what the, what you’re permitted to do.

[00:10:17] Cause the last thing you want to do is make a financial offer and it’s a no for that group because they, that won’t go very well.

[00:10:24] Kris Ward: Okay. So also to I know your specialty is dealing with people who are doing speaking engagements, but for those that may be listening and aren’t ready for that, or they don’t see that on their landscape of things they want to do, I think a lot of the stuff that you’re talking about also translates to the fact that video and we all have to do video.

[00:10:44] Amonda Rose Igoe: Great. Yeah.

[00:10:45] Kris Ward: Okay. Agreed. So what does a good closing look like?

[00:10:50] Amonda Rose Igoe: So a good closing, how long, let’s just video, are we talking 3 minute video, are we talking a webinar video?

[00:10:56] Kris Ward: Okay, let’s start with video because everybody has to do that and then let’s go to talking.

[00:11:00] Amonda Rose Igoe: Okay.

[00:11:01] Kris Ward: It’s obviously not my area of expertise.

[00:11:04] Speaking. Sorry.

[00:11:05] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah. It depends on the length of the video. So obviously if I’m doing this, if we’re doing your, I are doing a 60 second video, what do we want people to do? Do we want people to share the video? So that’s something you can do in 60 seconds. If you’re inviting somebody to book a strategy session, you only have, if it’s 60 seconds, you got to do that in 20 seconds or less.

[00:11:28] Okay. And it’s hard to do that. So you have to know what’s the shortest closing you can do in that limited amount of time. Now, if your video is two or three minutes, you could say I could say, if you want to learn more about the, she speaks personality archetypes, go to Amondarose. com. That’s A M O N D A R S E Amondarose.

[00:11:47] com. And you can file an opportunity, you’ll get an opportunity to book an assessment. So you need to, one, if it’s sending them to a website, repeat the website. If it’s difficult to say or spell, you need to spell it for them.

[00:12:01] Kris Ward: Yeah. And I think spelling works most of the time because even with me, like Kris Ward, I spell it because Kris can be spelt two different ways.

[00:12:08] But as well, if I’m talking quickly as I do, people think that sometimes I’m saying Kris Ward instead of Kris Ward. So I think it’s just easier to spell it anyhow.

[00:12:18] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah. So if I say Amonda Rose really fast.

[00:12:20] Kris Ward: Yeah.

[00:12:21] Amonda Rose Igoe: Amonda Rose. It sounds like I’m on the road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And people often think it’s Amanda, right?

[00:12:27] So they’ll type in and it gets autocorrected too. So if they go to type in Amonda Rose, Google will even say to me, do you want Amanda Rose?

[00:12:34] Kris Ward: Yeah. Yeah. No, I don’t. Okay. So working backwards, we’ve got. We don’t want to do data dump. We’ve got a compelling close, but in amongst that we’re told over and over again that we have to tell our story or some version of a story.

[00:12:51] Like it doesn’t have to, I always, qualify that you don’t need to tell your childhood dramas, but story, we do know story is it resonates analogies like the one you just gave me, that’s a little bit of a story. It’s ah, now I get it. Snorkeling versus deep dive. Okay. So people remember stories.

[00:13:08] So how do we weave that into a talk? How many stories should we have? What does that look like? When is it too much? When is it too little?

[00:13:15] Amonda Rose Igoe: Everybody meet everyone, whether it was sharing on a video or doing a live presentation. People want to know about you. So they’ll often put people who are on video or speak in front of a live audience on a pedestal and think, oh, look at Kris.

[00:13:30] She’s so successful. She can relate to me. And that happens all the time. So having that relatable story is really important. But as you mentioned, you cannot tell your entire life story. It’s okay to take a childhood story. But have it one specific situation or an adult story or any story, but it needs to be personal to you.

[00:13:49] And I like to use this frame rank of B’s, where it’s your breakdown. What’s the situation that was a breakdown? What’s the breakthrough that you experienced? How is it a blessing in your life? What happened? What did you learn from that situation? How did it change your directory for the future? And the last one is tie it into your business message.

[00:14:13] Kris Ward: Okay. I like that. The breakdown, the breakthrough.

[00:14:15] Amonda Rose Igoe: Why did that come to business message? Okay. Got it.

[00:14:19] Kris Ward: That’s good.

[00:14:19] Amonda Rose Igoe: I love alliterations.

[00:14:21] Kris Ward: Me too. Yeah. Yeah. I like that too because, sorry to interrupt, because too often we get so confused back again to data dump.

[00:14:29] Okay. We talk about the hero’s journey and then I’ve had people in the show and there’s all different versions of that. And there’s five stages or there’s seven or there’s three. And you’re like, I got to memorize that. But you’re right at the end of it, really the breakdown, the breakthrough and the business message. Okay. I can do that.

[00:14:45] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah, it makes it simple.

[00:14:47] All right, but you want to avoid the data, as we mentioned which is so important. They don’t need to know your entire life story, pick a specific situation. It could be a car accident, a loss of a job, a divorce. It could be something that happened in your childhood.

[00:15:03] It’s, we’re not here to tell them everything and you want to make sure that story, that experience can tie easily into why you do what you do today.

[00:15:12] Kris Ward: Okay. All right. So do we want to break that down a little further? So we’ve got the breakdown, the breakthrough and the business message in the breakdown.

[00:15:22] Are there things we look for? Or it just. All right. It is as, it’s as simple as it sounds.

[00:15:27] Amonda Rose Igoe: No, it’s not as simple as it sounds, but it, that’s an important step. So I’ll share a little to use myself as an example. One of my stories, and we have different stories that I tell the different audiences.

[00:15:37] One of them is when I came home from grammar school, discovered that my dad had literally vanished into thin air. No one knew what happened to him. So that story starts that way. And the thing is, I did not tell you that the house was in New Jersey. I didn’t tell you what my dad’s name was. I didn’t tell you anything else except exactly what you needed to know to paint a picture of what it was like in your mind for a child to come home and discover her dad was missing.

[00:16:08] Grammar school kid. And so it’s, you want it to tie into the important essence of the story. What’s the important things they need to know to paint the picture? And then what you want to do is tied it into the emotions, so what’s the emotional impact of that story? So if I continue that story, I asked my mom where’s daddy?

[00:16:26] My mom said, I don’t know. He just did his superiority, literally vanished into thin air. We, she called the police. She contacted our neighbors. She called his work everywhere. Imagine being a little girl and your dad vanishes into thin air and no one knew what happened to him. I was his little girl. And so I go into the emotion of that story.

[00:16:47] And so that’s really important because without the emotion, then it doesn’t really have any impact. So one of the things I’ve done at live events and group events is I’ve had people shout out emotion based words because they really get stuck with this. What was I feeling? So emotion based words, sadness, anger, resentment.

[00:17:10] Depression, they have to really put those words in there that give it the essence. I said crushed, in my, so things like that really matter. Okay. Where the hell’s your dad? So as I would tell what to continue with the story is we found out four years later that my dad died in a fire in another state.

[00:17:28] Kris Ward: Oh my god.

[00:17:29] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah. And I didn’t see him again until he laid in a casket when I was 10.

[00:17:34] Kris Ward: So did, okay, did he die soon and you didn’t know or he has left the family and died years later?

[00:17:43] Amonda Rose Igoe: So he had taken off.

[00:17:45] Kris Ward: Okay. All right. I know we’re off track, but people, you would all be writing me to ask me where, okay, all right. Now that I closed that loop.

[00:17:54] Amonda Rose Igoe: Okay. Let me just also show the audience Amonda Rose, how do you tie this into speaking? It seems like an odd story to go into speaking. And so what happened for me, I just use myself as an example that you can take something that may not necessarily feel like a fit and show how it fits.

[00:18:10] And for me, when my dad disappeared I was devastated and I shut down. I thought maybe, I did something. That made him disappear. Maybe I said something, maybe he didn’t want to be around me and I took it very personally. So I became somebody who didn’t want to talk anymore. So I really became really quiet and shy and that followed me throughout my adult life for many years.

[00:18:37] And I was uncomfortable in social situations. Every time I spoke, I’d giggle afterwards because I was just so uncomfortable. So you see how that kind of just bridges, it will eventually bridge even more to

[00:18:48] Kris Ward: I think also what I heard was when you tell the story, often, let’s say I’m telling a story to a friend or family member, and then sometimes we’re giving details because they’re in the fabric of our life day to day.

[00:19:01] So it might be something you know how I normally do that on Tuesdays? This time, whatever, blah, blah, blah. So I give a backstory because A – we have the time and the bandwidth for that. We’re just chatting. And I think for myself anyhow. That’s what I had to really learn on tighter videos is I just need to say, like you said, Hey, I came home from school.

[00:19:22] It wasn’t like, I like, you don’t need to say what grade you’re in or you’re right or where you lived or all these other things, or did you have siblings or whatever you just really got, you took a very dramatic story and initially made it down to one sentence. I came home, my dad had vanished.

[00:19:37] And and even that word instead of saying I was at home for an hour and he usually greets me at the door and then he wasn’t, I noticed he wasn’t there for dinner and whatever. So I think that’s the powerful lesson I got in there is really boiling down the ingredients till, you just get that one, that, that bare minimum you need.

[00:19:56] Amonda Rose Igoe: Absolutely. Absolutely. And when you get to your story part of it, here’s a great technique. Another B, we’re going to put in there is the word because. So when you get to your, the reason you do your business tied into business message. I started my business because I don’t want anyone to experience what I experienced.

[00:20:14] And so we use the word because that 10x is the experience for the audience and now they feel more connected to you because it’s purpose driven.

[00:20:22] Kris Ward: Oh my gosh. Very simple. Very powerful. Okay. With this framework, you’re telling us exactly what to do. What are some things that you, what are the common mistakes you see us all do?

[00:20:33] Cause I know myself, I could butcher this seven ways to Sunday. So what are the common missteps that you see, even when you start off with this framework?

[00:20:42] Amonda Rose Igoe: With your framework. As we mentioned, pulling back in the data dump too much information. I think there is one other thing that happens to people, especially when you tell a very personal story for the first time, that’s Or the second or third time, you might want to, you might start feeling this need to cry.

[00:20:59] And for lack of a better term, ugly cry, we’ve seen it, right? No one ever looks great when that happens. And so somebody might feel like, oh my gosh, I start bawling when I told my story. And you don’t want to get to that point. In your story, because now the audience is feeling sorry for you. You want to use your story to empower them and say…

[00:21:19] Kris Ward: Let me jump in for a sec. I’m sorry though. Do you not have to practice this enough that you wouldn’t cry? Because here’s my other thing I’m that would, I would pull my eyeballs out before I would do that. But I also would be set up properly that I wouldn’t tell the story if I thought I couldn’t do it without emotion because my pet peeve, and yes, I’m a flawed human being.

[00:21:39] Okay. Thank you. And I’m easily annoyed. I forgive me for my sins, but sometimes I’ll see somebody. I, one time I was at this event and she was on a 52 week tour and she tells the story this is the 51st week. People don’t tell me you’re getting choked up at this story after 51 weeks. You’ve been doing this every week.

[00:21:59] So I often forgive me. I find that manipulative. I find like, how could, how many times have you had to tell the story and you’re still crying about it? I don’t, I might just a bad human being that’s a possibility.

[00:22:11] Amonda Rose Igoe: So that she’s probably, it’s set up for her to experience that. But I will tell you, even though I have shared that story many times when I tell it, and I’m going to talk about a little bit more about the ugly cry, because I want to give people some tangible thing that they can do to help themselves is so that when that happens, you should pull, when you’re telling your breakdown, you should go back to that moment in your mind like it was yesterday.

[00:22:35] Kris Ward: Okay. That’s not helpful.

[00:22:37] Amonda Rose Igoe: So you can feel the emotion of that story because otherwise it comes across as flat.

[00:22:44] Kris Ward: Okay.

[00:22:45] Amonda Rose Igoe: We want to tap into the emotion.

[00:22:46] Kris Ward: Okay. I can relate to that. I could skim over the story because if it was painful, yes. All right. So there we go. Here’s where I would go wrong.

[00:22:54] I would skim over it. It’s painful. And I still do that. Okay. I got you. All right. So it’s not, they’re doing it wrong. I’m just doing a different version of wrong than they are.

[00:23:05] Amonda Rose Igoe: So we have somebody is though, because the first time they might’ve practiced it over and over again. Now, for the first time, they’re telling you in front of a live audience, we’re doing it on video.

[00:23:13] It can break up those emotions because now I’m not just speaking it to myself. I’m speaking, I’m sharing this with the world, my experience. And so if somebody does go into that feeling like, Oh my God, that’s, this ugly cry, this overwhelming cry is coming up, then they want to do a physical movement. So a physical movement might be, they might clap their hands.

[00:23:33] They might touch their heart. They might just do something physical. So what it does is it breaks that psychological pattern of that feeling of that need to cry.

[00:23:42] Kris Ward: Okay. And also I think too when we, I don’t, you know what? I was deep in thought. I’m not going to pretend to fake this. I have no idea what I was just going to say.

[00:23:51] Continue. I wrote down a word but now I don’t know what the word means. Yeah, I don’t know what it was. Go ahead. I’ve never done that before because I write notes down when you’re talking and I was so distracted by what you said. Okay, continue. I’ll rudely interrupt you when I remember.

[00:24:07] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yeah, that’s okay. So they can snap their finger, they can do something. Anything physical, do a Kegel. If you know what that is, squeeze your butt, whatever you need to do to change the thing that, and the ugly cry comes out because now the audience isn’t they’re not feeling inspired and moved by you.

[00:24:27] Kris Ward: Yeah, no, you don’t want that.

[00:24:28] Okay. So that does help with the emotion. All right. So we’re telling that we’re using mindful words, and then we’re going to tie it into a business message. Is there a way we can do this wrong? Cause sometimes it almost seems when you see those bad commercials, like some retired, I don’t know, hockey player, and it’s I was used to taking a hit.

[00:24:49] Talk about taking a hit. Don’t take a hit on your insurance. And have to also be very careful of how you tie this into that you land the plane.

[00:25:01] Amonda Rose Igoe: Yes. So you do have to, for the, for it to land to their business message. Is that like,

[00:25:07] Kris Ward: how do we know that it’s a good connect?

[00:25:10] Amonda Rose Igoe: I’m going to it’s sometimes there’s just a super easy, like I lost my job kind of thing.

[00:25:14] And now I’m, I own my own business or something like that. Some of them are a little bit more difficult and that’s where having some, an expert look at it. For example, I was doing a live event and somebody said, I’ve had a great life. Nothing has ever happened to me. Ever.

[00:25:28] Kris Ward: Then you should buy new friends.

[00:25:32] Amonda Rose Igoe: And I said, have you ever, have you lost anybody in your life? He said my cat. Okay. So what I do in my event is I have somebody tell their story and I retell it. I didn’t have a story to work with. I’m like, okay, give me some information. So what happened in the story is I took the story of the cat, her coming home.

[00:25:48] She was a skin, she did, she was an esthetician and she did skincare and I tied it into her lost cat. And it might sound really crazy, but it worked beautifully. So it was about her cat coming home and how much she, after work and she, how much she loved the cat and enjoyed all the beautiful energy that she got from the cat and then the cat, I’m giving very short condensers and the cat disappeared.

[00:26:10] And she, she was devastated by this and she remembered one of the days when she was touching her client’s skin and she could literally feel the same beautiful energy that her cat give her gave herself every day. So I tied it in. That was a tough one. I even thought that was going to stump me, but it worked.

[00:26:27] Kris Ward: Okay. Oh my gosh. Okay. This is a beautiful framework. And I do think It’s very different than the other stuff that we hear about, how to do public speaking or how to talk in your videos. And it, there’s just so much data dump coming at you, all the different things, and then they make you crazy where your hand should be and all this stuff.

[00:26:45] But I think the simplicity of your framework is, breakdown, breakthrough, and then the business message. Oh my God, we could do that. That sounds simple enough. It’s not that hard, right? Yeah. No, we could do this. All right. Oh my gosh. Okay. Amonda Rose. Oh, we could talk to you all day. Where can people find more of your brilliance?

[00:27:03] Amonda Rose Igoe: Okay. They can go to Amondarose. com that’s A M O N D A R O S E. com. And they can actually take my speaker personality quiz right there on my website and get the results, which is just fun because we all have different personalities when we speak and whether it’s video or and video or in person or even talking to our friends.

[00:27:23] And so we need to make sure that we connect with the entire audience because not everyone in the audience or watching our videos is just like us.

[00:27:30] Kris Ward: No

[00:27:31] Amonda Rose Igoe: always find me on show. I’m really easy to find. There’s only one. Amonda Rose AMO NDA, ROSE, all one.

[00:27:38] Kris Ward: And we’ll put that in the show notes for sure.

[00:27:40] And we do love a quiz. We have a business personality quiz as well. So we love a quick quiz. It’s all kinds of fun. Oh my gosh, this was helpful and I think refreshing and very hopeful cause it’s nice and simplistic and broken down okay, let’s start here and get some success and build upon it.

[00:27:56] Instead of all that’s out there, what you, we could be doing as a speaker, whether that’s on video or on stage or what have you. So thank you again, Amonda Rose, and please share this with a business buddy. Don’t have them banging around by themselves out there trying to stumble through this all. I think this is really helpful information and we will see you all in the next episode. Thank you again, Amonda Rose.