6 Ways To Use Your Voice In Today’s Technology! with David Tyler

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[00:11:31]Kris Ward: Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Win The Hour, Win The Day and I am your host, Kris Ward, and today in the house, we have David Tyler. Now I’m going to let him introduce himself or I’m introducing him, but I’m going to let him give his little backstory because once he starts to talk. You’re going to notice that there is a difference, and there’s a story behind the voice. Welcome to the show, David, 

[00:11:55]David Tyler: Thank you very much for inviting me to be here, Kris. I really, I really appreciate it.

[00:11:59]Kris Ward: Now, I’m not sure if you guys are capturing this depending where you’re listening to it, you know, I don’t know what your car radio. Oh my gosh. Hello is from the fifties, your car radio, right? I don’t know where you’re listening to this on, but if you don’t hear it, David has a very, Hey, I think I just want a car or I on channel six news kind of voice.

[00:12:19] So David, why don’t you tell us a little bit of how, you know, I’m very short version of, you know, obviously I’m not your… we’re going to talk about how do you use your voice in the modern day world for business, but lets then understand really quick little version of why you’re the guy to tell us about.

[00:12:36]David Tyler: Well, I’ve been a voice actor for about 40 years doing many different kinds of things. I’ve worked in Canada as the voice of the weather network for a little while. I’ve worked in radio for about 25 years in television. And for people who are listening in Canada, they may recognize me as the voice of CTV news. So CTV news channels, CTV the nightly news and all the local news programs across the country. 

[00:13:09]Kris Ward: Okay. You know, let me jump in here. When the business mind, when you do that, is it a hired… here is the project, or is there any residual impact if they’re using your voice for the next five years?

[00:13:21]David Tyler: Most of the broadcasters that I work with, but 95% of the broadcasters that I work with I’m under contract.

So with CTV news, for example, I’m under a 12 month contract. I’ve got radio stations in the United States and around the world, it’s the same thing, a 12 month contract. But yeah, but I do a lot of those one-offs hearing.

[00:13:40]Kris Ward: Okay. No, I just didn’t know if it was like syndication, like, you know how the people at friends, everybody on the friends is getting paid for it 20 years later. So I didn’t know if they kept using your voice. Do you get sort of residual impact? 

[00:13:51]David Tyler: No.

[00:13:52]Kris Ward:  No, such luck. Okay. I’m thinking of you, David. Okay. So excellent. All right. So you are the man to tell us about this. So today we’re going to talk about using your voice for business, and we’re gonna talk about the five elements of voice volume pitch. Timber and register

[00:14:10]David Tyler:  Right. The key thing that you need to remember is that your voice is your personality. A lot of people kind of take their voice for granted. It’s just a kind of a thing. They speak, they have an idea, they have a thought and they, and they push it out and they’re done with it.

[00:14:29] Because I’ve been doing it for 40 years. I’ve become very aware of the way I say things, how I say things and when I say things but what you need to start thinking about is your voice is your personality. And when you’re talking about business, your voice and personality represents your business.

[00:14:51] So your ability to communicate is directly connected to the success of your business. The way that you use your voice will help you to become more successful in business. 

[00:15:05]Kris Ward: You bring up a lot of good points. Now I don’t take that for granted. Here is my little dilemma. I blame it on my mother.

Like any functioning person would, and my mother came from a very large family, like large. And so you talk quickly and you talk loud and you just talk over other people. So, and I actually thought, okay, I need to slow this down. I need to be a better communicator. I actually took two courses on how to be a better speaker as far as breath and owning your voice.

[00:15:34] Because also I get a little pitchy is my husband say like, you’re going high. Like the dogs did hear you. And he kindly said he was a very generous and kind man. He said I should’ve got my money back on both of those. So, I didn’t take it for granted, but I do think there’s a sort of a blueprint that we are stuck with to some element of it. So help us, how can we navigate within what we’ve been given? 

[00:16:04]David Tyler: I mean, they say that we find somebody, usually in our life, to emulate their voice. My father was a tenured professor at McGill University in Montreal. So he was a great order. And just automatically my ear kind of went towards the way that he spoke the style that he spoke and the resonance that he created with his voice.

[00:16:33] There’s something we need to talk about also that in terms of communication, our communication right now that we’re having only 7% of this communication that we’re having is about what we are saying. And 55% is body language, and then 38% is tone of voice. If you think about it, in terms of what’s been happening with the pandemic in terms of doing zoom calls where we’re body language really doesn’t come into it.

[00:17:06] Think about this for a minute, that your voice is actually more important than what you are saying. If you’re leaving voice messages, if you’re using the what’s the name of the app on your text that records messages? I have a client in Europe and apparently it’s very popular to do that.

[00:17:26] To record. He reports his voice rather than texting. It is more important than ever today to have control of your voice or understanding how to use your voice. It’s more important than most people have ever thought, perhaps. 

[00:17:43]Kris Ward: You know what you bring up so many points. I don’t even know where to start.

So first of all, yes, my tone has gotten me in a lot of trouble throughout my life, and I always thought it was not my mother, even as a child to say, watch your tone, which by the way, poor mom, I see her now with that tone, I know where I got that tone and I didn’t like it as a child. Cause I thought you can’t prove, like, I didn’t say something wrong.

[00:18:07] I had. How can I argue my tone it’s interpreted, right? So I didn’t appreciate that. But what you bring up is something,we’ve all heard the, not the exact formula, but the whole body language is everything, you know, Lala. We got it, but we don’t highlight or address enough that 38% is a really big number considering that’s connected to the tone.

And I have to say, I don’t think that comes up, not even once a year. Yeah, I hear people talking about that. 

[00:18:38]David Tyler: No, we don’t. There was a really interesting case that came up in the last two years and because I’m always listening to interesting voice stories. It’s the story of Elizabeth Ann Holmes, who was the CEO of Theranos,

[00:18:53] it’s a defunct technology company now, I don’t know the details about what happened within the company but she lost billions of dollars that she had. And I believe that she had to do some prison time. But the..

[00:19:11]Kris Ward: Hold on, just by the way of tone you made that sound very friendly. I believe she is residing and residential established. We call prison. 

[00:19:25]David Tyler: My journalism friends would say, you need to say allegedly a couple of times, because I don’t know the whole story, but what I do know is that Elizabeth Ann Holmes got bad advice. Okay. She got bad advice.

[00:19:37] Somebody told her that you need to speak in a deep voice in order to have a more respect from the people around you and to attract more investors. And she would speak in a tone that was like this. Imagine this woman, she’s in her mid thirties, blonde hair, blue eyes, very well dressed, but she spoke like this all the time.

[00:20:01]To me, that was really bad advice. The person that told Elizabeth and homes to speak that way. And I like to talk with them. But what advice that she should have been given is that resonance communicates confidence, not depth. We have this false idea that speaking in a deep voice is how you’re going to gain respect.

[00:20:31] It’s not. Resonance is, there’s a sweet point to everybody’s voice men and women have a sweet point to their voice and I call it The Maximum Resonance Point, the MRP. It’s the happy place where your voice lives, where everything is just, everything just flows and everything is happy.

[00:20:53] One of the beautiful things about speaking in your maximum resonance point in your MRP if you are speaking for an hour, if you’re giving a speech or whatever it is, when you’re speaking in that tone, you could talk for hours and hours. If you’re speaking too high or too low, the way that Elizabeth Ann Holmes did, it puts a lot of pressure on your voice. Now, several years ago, because I also coached other voice talent.

[00:21:19] About four or five years ago, I created a video which helps you find your maximum residence point using a piano. And if you Google David Tyler maximum resonance point. That video will pop up. I just checked it now, just before we started talking to make sure that it shows up.

[00:21:40] So if you Google David Tyler, maximum resonance point, it’s a video of about three minutes, four minutes. You will be able to find your maximum resonance point.

[00:21:21]Kris Ward: Hold on. Let me jump in for a second before we go deeper in that. I have heard female actors. I can’t remember the name now, but she was on whatever.

[00:22:00] Anyhow. And she was told because she had a little bit of a deeper voice, not a masculine voice just said deeper. And I don’t know any of the technical terms that you’re going to throw there and they hurt acting coaches. You be careful because they will constantly put you in roles of a lawyer or a doctor or a position of authority because of your voice.

So there, I think that’s a common thing. Whether somebody started myth or there is truth to that, I don’t know. Right.

[00:22:26]David Tyler: But the key thing, Kris, is that everybody has a maximum resonance point. It’s not just because me and I have a bigger voice, that only I have that, you have a maximum of resonance point to your voice as well.

[00:22:39] And one of the ways that you can find your maximum resonance point, or get to it without the piano without the exercise is probably one of the most important things that you need for your voice. And it’s probably one of the most important things that you need to live.

[00:22:56] And that is breathing. A lot of people will forget about breathing. They won’t think about breathing. When you start breathing in a shallow way, it actually creates anxiety. If you’re going to give a big speech or whatever, you want to be able to breathe to fully breathe and there’s something called box breathing.

[00:23:16] Okay. That actually the Marines use. They teach them or the US Marines to use this box breathing method in order to keep calm. But at the same time, box breathing will help you to discover your maximum resonance point. Are you familiar with box breathing? 

[00:23:37]Kris Ward: No, I’m fascinated by this because I do know I speak too quickly and I do know I don’t breathe enough.

And I do know I have a lot of words per minute, and it’s been something that I’ve struggled with and it’s almost like a distraction because they realize, oh, I have to slow down. Oh, I have to breathe. Like, it’s just, my, everything I do is just fast, which is a lifelong journey of slowing down. So yeah, I agree with everything you’re saying, but I’ve been fighting, trying to fix it for 20 years.

[00:24:04]David Tyler: What do you think, Kris? When you speak quickly, what do you think the perception is of the people who are listening to you? What do you think the perception is?

[00:24:13]Kris Ward: I think, and I do talk a lot slower than I should. I think it comes off juvenile, like a child running into, Hey mom, this is what happened at the park and somebody’s fault, right? Yeah, I know. I know. I’m very self-aware.

[00:24:30]David Tyler: Which is one of the reasons why we need to talk about that. When you do the box breathing exercise, I’m just gonna briefly do it. What box breathing is is you breathe in for a count of four, hold it for a count of four and release it through your nose by a count of four.

[00:24:51] And then hold that for a count of four. And then you go around the box again and you breathe in again for four and what this ends up doing, you should feel your belly moving out. Not your chest, should feel your belly moving out. And what happens aas you’re doing this breathing is that your diaphragm actually relaxes.

[00:25:14] And that’s where your voice is going to come from. That’s where your resonant voice is going to come from, it’s going to come from your diaphragm, from your belly. And one of the things that I add to the box breathing exercise is that when you’re exhaling, you say

[00:25:31] as if you are opening your mouth for your doctor to say, ah, the doctor wants to look down. Okay. So you open up your throat and you say, ah, on the exhale. And that is essentially where your maximum resident’s point should be. It’s another way of doing that.

[00:25:53]Kris Ward: I can’t hear you. I keep counting to four now. I’m kidding. I’m doing cycles, I’ve moved on.

[00:26:01]David Tyler: But box breathing, I recommend it for anybody that’s going to go and give a speech or there’s an important moment in their life just to take three or four minutes and just do that box breathing. 

[00:26:11]Kris Ward: No, and these are really good points. And I think this, and it’s very simple and something we can do. And I am particularly mindful, like when I’m doing sales to make sure I talk slower and change my tone. Like, it’s something I have to concentrate on because otherwise it’s just like, well, but so is that something we would do before a presentation?

[00:26:30] It’s not something we have to constantly do while we’re speaking. It will slow us down and make us be more mindful and will impact the dialogue or conversation.

[00:26:39]David Tyler: Yeah, I think if you’re just starting to do the box breathing, I think it’s important to do that just before you go on, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen Tony Robbins just before he goes on stage.

[00:26:52] He has a little trampoline that he jumps up and down. That’s kind of the opposite of what I’m saying. What I’m saying is to be calmer, to get into your maximum resonance point, so that as you speak, first of all, you’re going to be able to last longer. But at the same time, you’re going to sound more confident because resonance communicates confidence.

[00:27:14]Kris Ward: Okay. So in my mind, I hear what you’re saying and it’s like, it’s being more grounded and being more standing, more strong in your voice. And so what is the… I don’t even know what resonance is. So I understand volume, pitch, I think, which is a musical thing, I guess that’s when you go high and low, like when people say Kris, you’re going to hear that when my pitches are high if I’m upset. 

[00:27:38]David Tyler: Yes. Yes it is. Yeah. Let’s talk about the different colors of the voice. And we’ll start with pitch because that seems to be an issue that you’ve recognized. In that you start to pitch your voice up. I think it would be interesting.

[00:27:58] We’re not going to do it now. Maybe we’ll do it after we finish the podcast, but we’ll do the breathing and the resonant test to find out where your maximum resonance point is. We’ll do that later. 

[00:28:11]Kris Ward: I’ll tell full disclosure here. There was a time where they had key chains, where if you like a little thing on a key chain, it was a novelty item a couple of years back.

And if you whistled, they like, I guess you’d find the key chain or something. It would beep and if I was getting excited and talking about something, the sound of my voice, these damn whistles off. Like that’s when you know, like you need rehab, right? 

[00:28:36]David Tyler: What are the other things that I talk about in my talk, when I’m speaking with business people and CEOs, is about the psychological effect, the reason why, and you just said the reasons why.

[00:28:50] That you had a very large family and in order to get your mother’s attention, you needed to speak quickly and you needed to speak higher. One of the things that you’ll know if you’re out in the country, on the lake or wherever, and you want to get somebody’s attention, who’s far away, you’re gonna raise your pitch because it travels further.

[00:29:11] We know that instinctively. So you’re trying to get somebody’s attention by raising your pitch. Find your maximum resonance point and bring your pitch down to where it should be.

[00:29:23]Kris Ward: This is fascinating because what you’re doing is, I hear things that we take for granted, but we don’t know how to label or identify them. So you’re talking about the colors of the voice. And when you give that example, we all, oh, we’ve all done that I didn’t know that was this. I think I also go into presentation mode, like with my team when we’re on like a zoom call or anything, I constantly have to say to them, like, I.

[00:29:48] These are all my flaws, people. I have to be careful. I swear. I give myself a headache talking loud. Again, I blame my mother. Thank you very much. And she knows this. And what happens is I think I’m in presentation mode and I’ve got this very expensive mic and I say, oh my gosh, you do it again. Can you guys hear me when I talk normal?

And they’re like, yes, Kris. And then it actually is harder for me. I feel like I’m pressing down on my chest, trying to control this hoarse beast voice of mine. And it’s more effort for me to talk lower than it is for me to go loud. 

[00:30:23]David Tyler: We could find your maximum resonance point and place your voice. Yeah.

[00:30:31]Kris Ward: And I blame all my aunts are very, very loud. I’m at their house and they’re like, oh, they’re also loud on the phone, I don’t wanna be all that. 

[00:30:37]David Tyler: That’s it, that’s another whole psychological angle to understand why do you speak that way? And accept it. And push it away so that when your voice does start to pitch up again, understand the reason why and accept it and then, and then push it away. But pitch…

[00:30:55]Kris Ward: Just like voice therapy. 

[00:30:58]David Tyler:Well, there is, there is a whole aspect to voice therapy. And developing the sense, the feeling of that, that you have the right to speak and, and that people should be listening. There’s a psychological side to that. 

[00:31:15]Kris Ward: And there are 2 things you just made me think of.

One is I do know, I think I got to talk quickly in case I lose their attention. Like I got to get to the point. Right. Cause I often thought if I was Martin Luther King and I was up there going. It would be like, oh my gosh, I had this dream and I would be trying to get it out quickly because it’s really important.

[00:31:34] And I found it so fascinating. Like I had a dream and this big dramatic pause, I’m like, they have left. They’re not listening to me at this point. Right. So I do know there’s a psychological aspect to that. Oh, there was a second thing. Oh, the second thing I wanted to say is when I’m doing interviews, we help our clients.

[00:31:52] We’ll help them build their WIN Teams. So I’ll hire. train, onboard and get them whatever they need for their team. And I’m telling you you’re right. Within three seconds. When somebody hops on a zoom call to be interviewed, I have like, I’ll tell you nine out of 10 times, if they’re good, how much time they’re going to get out of me just by their voice.

Like right away. I know how they speak. And I’m like, okay. How long do I have to be polite here? Cause it’s not gonna work. 

[00:32:19]David Tyler: But this brings us to color number two, which is pace and the pace that you take to speak also communicate something about the message. If it’s an emergency message, the house is on fire or whatever like that.

[00:32:35] Yeah. You’re going to be talking fast because you need to be, so there’s an urgency. But once you have your maximum resonance point and you figure out the proper rhythm that you should be in to deliver the message, whatever the message happens to be. If you’re giving somebody some bad news, you’re going to be talking a little bit slower, but it’s not just that when you are speaking that you will speak the same rhythm the whole time.

[00:33:04] Sometimes you’re gonna speak a little bit faster. Just kind of like waves. I just did it right now, where I slowed down first. And then I went a little bit quicker to get to whatever the point is. So pitch and pace are very important colors of the voice, but probably my biggest one is called Prosody.

[00:33:28] It is the melody of the voice of what you are saying. And last week I was watching a video on YouTube and the guy would talk like this and he would always end each sentence off by going straight down. And then he would start at the top of the sentence and then he would continue through the middle of the sentence and then you would end down, and this is an easy way to get people to

[00:33:55] automatically tune out from your message. Prosody is the melody that you choose to use to deliver your message. I’ve been doing this for 40 years. So I already have my kind of melody. An example of… it’s cultural too. I’m not good at accents, but if I’ve listened to some movies with Irish actors.

[00:34:20] And it seems to me that everybody in an Irish movie ends off every sentence as if it’s a question.  Okay. So there is a cultural thing also, but in North America with the North American accent, one of the things that I found is that women in general speak that way. The technical term is Uptalk. I call it deferring to authority.

[00:34:50]Kris Ward: I was thinking of that as you were talking. I hate putting categories, women do this, men do that. So I was trying to figure out how to phrase this question because I do notice this more in females and it’s my, not my pet peeve. I want to jump in and I know nothing.

[00:35:05] I mean, the fool here, I don’t want anything that you know,  but it weakens their position when their voice goes high at the end of every question and end of every sentence, like they’re asking questions and they’re not sure. And it’s constant. It’s also, I think distracting it’s distracting and it just has no authority to it.

[00:35:21] And I’m like, okay, this is not my business. And why am I, who am I to tell them anything? But I do hear that and it really undermines whatever your message is.

[00:35:30]David Tyler: The female actors that I work with. That’s the first thing that if I notice, I’ll jump in right away and say, okay, this is what you’re doing.

And you need to stop doing that, especially if as a voice actor is selling a product, you need to be confident about the product. So when it comes to business, if you’re a female business owner, and you’re trying to get a new client or whatever the situation is, you need to be aware.

[00:35:56] If that’s something that you struggle with. Again, I’m calling it deferring to authority. And it seems to be a North American thing. The other term is uptalk. So at the end of every, every sentence and men do it also, but I do find culturally in North America that women do that a lot. And especially if you are in business, you have to get rid of that.

[00:36:23]Kris Ward: Yeah cause you sound unsure. 

[00:36:24]David Tyler: Correct. 

[00:36:25]Kris Ward: Can you talk to any, when you’re talking to people, can you just have a conversation or like you hear, like, I don’t know, kind of like somebody that sees music or something like, can you just pay attention to the content? Or you’re always like, oh, that should be fixed or whatever. Is it like distract, like white noise going on for you?

[00:36:43]David Tyler:  No. It never bothers me. I enjoy eavesdropping. I’m just kidding. But I enjoy watching movies and seeing how actors.. are they acting and how I can maybe borrow something from what they’re doing.

[00:36:59]Kris Ward: Yeah. Excellent. Oh my gosh. Time flies with you, David. Go ahead. 

[00:37:03]David Tyler:   The other two colors are, we talked about this before off air. Timber and tone. Timber is the quality or the character of your voice. And you can affect the quality and the character of your voice. You can do it with voice training. A few years ago, I played a cartoon character. I was playing the gym teacher, are you familiar with that cartoon?

[00:37:33] So I played his gym teacher and my voice was too resonant for that show because it’s a children’s show. So I literally recorded the whole episode with my arms crossed and holding down my chest so that it wouldn’t physically resonate. So it’s possible. I’m not suggesting that. Did anybody do that, but it’s important to think about or listen to, and hear the timber or the quality or character of your voice.

[00:38:01] You may sound very nasally, that this is where a vocal coach could come in and help you to change that. And then there’s tone. So timbre and tone are not the same thing. Tone is more like treble and bass on your stereo. There are guitars that have a knob on them that will give you more treble and more bass tone.

[00:38:28] So timber is kind of the quality or the character of your voice. Once you listen back to yourself, you can hear it. If you find that it is annoying or people believe that it’s annoying, you can always get help with a coach. And the same thing with tone, getting the treble or the base of your voice.

[00:38:47] But being aware of that as well is important. There was something else that you had brought up when we were talking about pitch and that is volume. The last color of the voice is volume. And again, for you and your case, growing up with a large family, it wasn’t just a pitch, but it was the volume and your aunts who speak very loud.

[00:39:07] Why? Because they grew up in that kind of atmosphere where to get recognized, you need to speak loudly. If you are the owner of a company, if you are the CEO of a company, you don’t need to speak louder anymore. You don’t, people are going to be paying attention to.

[00:39:23]Kris Ward: And I never yell. Like I never yell. I don’t believe in it. I just don’t. I would never give my energy away like that. Like, I’m not a parent and your child. So I would never yell at another human being like, you know, like, unless there’s danger, but so, it’s not something like, I don’t try to throw my weight around, and it’s funny enough. They think I talk slow and I’m very quiet because compared to them, they’ll say, we’re telling the story.

Somebody say like, you better talk quick. If you want to get that in. Listen, I have a podcast I’m trying to be a better human being. I’ll just not be heard in this house. I’m fine with it.

[00:39:58]David Tyler: Do you ever watch signsfield. There’s an episode called the alternate side, season three, episode 11.

[00:40:07] And in that episode, Woody Allen is shooting a movie and each one of the actors through the 30 minute episode says the line. These pretzels are making me thirsty. And each time different actor says it. They say it in a completely different way with a completely different intention that shows you how you can say something in diff.. these are professional actors.

[00:40:33] You can say something differently  even while you’re saying the exact same words. My other favorite example is Guardians of the Galaxy Group. And all he says in that film is I am Groot. He doesn’t say anything. All of his lines, his whole movie is I am Groot. And every time he says I am Groot, it has a completely different meaning.

[00:40:58] And sometimes it’s deeply emotional and sometimes it’s very exciting, but the way he says I am Groot, he’s very proud. It’s amazing what you can do with your tone of voice. With the seven colors of the voice to create a deeper meaning, to create a deeper message,no matter what it is.

[00:41:23] Maya Angelou used to say, words mean more than what is set down on paper. It takes the human voice to infuse them with deeper meaning. You can have a beautifully written speech. You could have hired a beautiful speech writer, but it’s your voice, the way that you’re going to present it, that’s going to change the meaning. And do we have time for our pop quiz? 

[00:41:49]Kris Ward: You know what we’re going to make time we’re running over, but I don’t care. It’s my show. 

[00:41:53]David Tyler: I’ve already given Kris the line. Can you help me with this? Now thinking about the seven colors, I forgot. There’s a seventh one, and that is silence. It’s kind of the anti color. It’s kind of the black of the colors. So this exercise is about setting your intention. You’re going to be going to say that line. Can you help me with this? Okay. First, I’m going to give you 3 queries. Say it as if you’re talking to a five-year-old child.

Think about the seven colors and speak like you’re talking to a five-year-old child. 

[00:42:36]Kris Ward: Can you help me with this? 

[00:42:39]David Tyler: Good. And as if you’re speaking to your boss.

[00:42:46]Kris Ward: Can you help me with this?

[00:42:48]David Tyler: Oh,  I don’t know if you’d say it quite that way. Imagine he’s like the big boss. He’s like the CEO of a company and you’re in the mail room.

[00:42:57]Kris Ward: Yeah. I’ve always been overconfident in my life. Okay. Can you help me with this? Can you help me with this?

[00:43:06]David Tyler: Can you… help me with this? Those kinds of… you could throw in that silence. Can you… help me with this? And then the last one is, say that line to me as if you’re frustrated and speaking to your next door neighbor who always borrows your stuff.

[00:43:26]Kris Ward: Can you help me with this? 

[00:43:29]David Tyler: Each one of those three times, you said it very differently. I understand that you’re not an actor. I would have gone a lot bigger and a lot smaller, but that’s a good example of how to use the seven colors of the voice to communicate. 

[00:43:45]Kris Ward:I got A+. I’m frustrated. Did you notice? I did really well there. Thanks. Oh my gosh. Time flies with you, David. It really does. We should have had this as a three part series. This is spectacular. I always say, too, that when somebody, I don’t know when they’re really passionate about something, it makes it interesting. But there was so much depth and scope to this and than I’ve ever had a conversation about.

[00:44:11] And you’re right. It is so much who you are. I know, especially now we talked about this a little bit off air is, I often leave audio message or messages or videos or whatever. You know, on different social media platforms, if I’m communicating with someone or a LinkedIn, instead of typing it out because they, they act like it, first of all, it’s much faster.

[00:44:30] And they act like, you know, now I did this big thing for them, but also I’ll tell this quick story, then what we do have to go. I had this gentleman that I was going back and forth with for like a whole bunch of months on Facebook. And he’s asked me this and we’re connecting, we’re connecting, connecting.

[00:44:46] And finally he left me a voice message. And he was like, he had the thickest Irish accent. I’m like, whoa, I need to go back and read all those texts. You sent me about this project. Like, I didn’t know you at all. Like, you know what you wrote and how you sound completely different. Although now, as I talk, I realize I’m getting loud again. David’s still here. 

[00:45:07]David Tyler: No, it’s okay. You’re getting excited because you’re making the connection.

[00:45:11]Kris Ward: Yes and making the connection. Alright, David, how can they find more of your brilliance? 

[00:45:16]David Tyler: They could go and visit my website, which is davidtylerspeaks, S P E A K S. davidtylerspeaks.com. I’m now giving a talk. I’m booking for this coming year, a talk on how to use your voice in business so they can get some more information there.

[00:45:36] Could I mention this book because we talk about psychology. It’s not my book. This is not my book. But it’s a book that’s written by Patsy Rottenberg and this is a book that all actors have on their bookshelf by Patsy Rodenburg and it’s called the Right To Speak. It goes a lot deeper into the psychology.

[00:45:54] And I think Kris, you’re going to gain a lot of insight into your youth and why you speak the way that you speak. I think you speak fantastic. The fact that you understand your shortcomings, if we want to call it that, and that you’re working on it, I think it’s fantastic.

[00:46:13]Kris Ward: Oh, I’m painfully self-aware David. You have been a treat. Thank you so very much everyone else, we will see you in the next episode. [00:46:21]END